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Firkin 3:26 Mon Aug 21
Lucy Letby
Whole life sentence

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Nurse Ratched 3:33 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
You still owe me a boat.

Far Cough 3:34 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
As wicked as she was, there were some at that hospital who were culpable to a certain degree buy not listening to concerns by one consultant particularly, in fact chastising him and asking him to apologise to that evil nurse.

zico 3:42 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
Cough - A senior manager in charge of nursing when Lucy Letby murdered and seriously injured babies in her care has been suspended.

Pretty sure others will follow. Staggered that one bloke has decided to take early retirement with a £1 million pension pot - rewarded for failure! If bigwigs continuously ignore warnings about deaths just to preserve their own reputation and deaths continue to occur then surely it's an accessory to murder? Hopefully these people will end up in the dock themselves and suffer a severe civil practice suit as well.

Also hope Sunak goes ahead with a bill to stop criminals bottling going up to the dock to face their sentence. They shouldn't be allowed to refuse.

Nurse Ratched 3:44 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
It was 3 or 4 consultants who did their best to raise the alarm. They were persistent, despite the fob-off. Then senior management threatened them with being reported to the GMC
if they didn't shut up sbout it. Letby made a formal complaint that she was being bullied and wrongfully accused by the doctors. Senior management made the doctors attend a struggle session with Letby and her PARENTS during which they were forced to apologise to Letby for suspecting/accusing her. Letby wrote a victim impact statement that was read to the doctors by her parents.

violator 3:44 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
Should have fucking dragged her by the hair and made sure she faced her sentencing, hopefully looking over her shoulder for the rest of her life will cause her nothing but misery and fear.

Far Cough 3:50 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
I wonder if she has that Munchausen by Proxy thing? Not that that mitigates her evil.

Fivetide 3:52 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
Cover ups have similarities to Charles Cullen case, although obviously a very differently funded healthcare system.

claypole 4:30 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
Another fucking waste of taxpayer's money. She should be meeting the hangman

yngwies Cat 5:01 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
Worst thing about it she just came across so normal.
Absolute cunt of a women¹¹11

yngwies Cat 5:02 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
Her dad sounds a bit odd.

Tomsdad 5:14 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
Could have caused all sorts of new heartache and anger had she been there with a big grin on her face as the Judge was calling out the sentence!

Stevethehammer 5:21 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
For cases like this I honestly believe that the death penalty is the only option. She will spend the rest of her live behind bars at the taxpayer expense and sadly the families of the babies she murdered will contribute to that expense.
She will no doubt go into a high security wing too for her own safety as I'm sure there will be many women in the same prison who for whatever reason, havent seen their own children grow up, happy to do what the state won't and switch her lights off.
It really does question humanity when you hear things like this. How anyone can do such a thing is beyond words.

zico 5:33 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
Stevethehammer 5:21 Mon Aug 21

I used to agree then I saw one of those TV series on Death Row and there were interviews with parents and families of the accused/convicted. No one really thinks about the parents, siblings, wives and children of the convicted and the death penalty punishes them not just the convicted person themselves. Can't imagine living with the knowledge that your child committed such heinous crimes. Do innocent parents or families of such a person need to be punished effectively twice? It's a difficult discussion.

Lee Trundle 5:33 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
NHS management being utter, UTTER shit shocker.

Stevethehammer 5:57 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
Of course it is a very divisive subject and one that I think should be open to every view, opinion, thought and feeling and no one should be slated for their view. I just happen to think that some crimes you are able to be rehabilitated, see the error of your ways and attempt to make amends. But for pure and utter evil like this woman there is no redemption, there is no come back. People make errors all the time, out of stupidity, desperation or whatever, what she did has no answer.
I understand the thoughts and feelings for her family but in this case I just think of the families who have suffered enough, knowing she still lives and breathes the same air, is still walking this earth albeit it behind closed doors, what will she bring to her own family apart from shame.
Of course the death penalty won't bring the children she has murdered back or take away the pain and suffering of everyone but it will surely help even just 1% to know she is no longer alive.
As I said, tough discussion, Death penalty eh. But it's my view that in these cases it should be an option.

zico 6:09 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
True Steve. At the vey least she should pay for her upkeep through brutally hard work and no comforts such as TV's or decent food, maybe they should bring old US style chain gangs back.

Fifth Column 6:19 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
I don't know the details of the case. I fully understand she was found guilty beyond reasonable doubt from a legal perspective.

However, I struggle with the death penalty in cases like this where there appears to be overwhelming evidence but not a "smoking gun" so to speak. Think of the miscarriages of justice there have been over the years.

Where there is CCTV of someone murdering someone else etc and there is no way you can deny it then I'm fully supportive of the death penalty in principle.

mallard 6:21 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
Personally I’d prefer her to suffer for the rest of her life watching her back in fear of reprisals.

I think death penalty / suicide is the easy way out.


Just my opinion of course

zico 6:49 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
Fifth, I believe the Judge stated "This was a case in which the prosecution "substantially, but not wholly" relied on circumstantial evidence." Letby never confessed. So of course this isn't Hollywood so extremely unlikely that anyone set her up but like you say plenty of miscarriages of justice in the past.

MTC 7:00 Mon Aug 21
Re: Lucy Letby
She should of been bound and gagged and dragged to the court to hear her sentence.Mind you,can you imagine the lawyers queuing up to take on her case for breaching her human rights if they had.

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